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Old 08-15-2006, 04:45 AM
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Wow…

What are you using for a tube bender?
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:06 AM
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Wow…

What are you using for a tube bender?
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once i finish my buggy im gonna cinvert it to hydro
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:25 AM
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lol. love that pic. looks like a giant bender, if ya compair that can of pepsi, that looks to be sitting on the bender ( atleast till ya look close ) makes it look like 4" pipe lmao

nice pics, and a cool build. makes me wanna build a truck...... again
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:41 AM
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anytime you have a longitudinal (horizontal)frame member(truck,trailer,etc)NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER weld vertical across it.When you welded those cage patches across the frame,you welded the ends,vertically across the web of the frame,weakening it by causing the 'notch' effect..frame metallurgy has changed by weld heat.you also welded the ends of those cage mounts,and the welding has caused compressive stress in the frame under the patch.you should have just welded patches on the frame,with a bead of weld on the top edge and the bottom edge only,leaving the ends unwelded,and free to expand under weld heat.most manufacturers will rivit spring mounts and such to the frames so as not to cause these stresses..good luck w/it
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:09 AM
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anytime you have a longitudinal (horizontal)frame member(truck,trailer,etc)NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER weld vertical across it.When you welded those cage patches across the frame,you welded the ends,vertically across the web of the frame,weakening it by causing the 'notch' effect..frame metallurgy has changed by weld heat.you also welded the ends of those cage mounts,and the welding has caused compressive stress in the frame under the patch.you should have just welded patches on the frame,with a bead of weld on the top edge and the bottom edge only,leaving the ends unwelded,and free to expand under weld heat.most manufacturers will rivit spring mounts and such to the frames so as not to cause these stresses..good luck w/it
Nice work, especially on the the tube bending. However, I would have to agree with bunky on welding to the frame. I regularly get repairs in the shop to farm equipment the some farmer weld vert on a horizontal frame member and it broke there at the weld. Fish plate time.
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anytime you have a longitudinal (horizontal)frame member(truck,trailer,etc)NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER weld vertical across it.When you welded those cage patches across the frame,you welded the ends,vertically across the web of the frame,weakening it by causing the 'notch' effect..frame metallurgy has changed by weld heat.you also welded the ends of those cage mounts,and the welding has caused compressive stress in the frame under the patch.you should have just welded patches on the frame,with a bead of weld on the top edge and the bottom edge only,leaving the ends unwelded,and free to expand under weld heat.most manufacturers will rivit spring mounts and such to the frames so as not to cause these stresses..good luck w/it
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Nice work, especially on the the tube bending. However, I would have to agree with bunky on welding to the frame. I regularly get repairs in the shop to farm equipment the some farmer weld vert on a horizontal frame member and it broke there at the weld. Fish plate time.
Thanks for the comments... The leading end of those plates are 1/8" and shaped like these plates and i always thought this was the standard for welding plates to the frame but i guess not......
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ahh i see said the blind man...will keep in mind when welding the pates for the cage....
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Ron, I'm not sure what that image is suppose to illustrate, is that looking at the side of the frame? What is the deal with the circle in the middle?

Stomper, at work on frames, at the front where we weld on tubing to angle in towards the hitch, we use a plate similiar to what you posted, and use it on both sides, only it is a lot longer, I would say a good 8"s of horizontal weld on either side of the splice
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Old 08-15-2006, 09:48 PM
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although, the way he did the plates is somewhat standard too. better then square ends atleast.

there are many schools of thought on this.... more then members on this board ). either way, atleast this is a trail rig, not a highway rig.
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